From: Jan Dohnalek
Date: 3 November 2011 12:54
does not seem to create anything "runnable" - please any experience here?
I downloaded the latest Windows package "all users" - type. Installed under admin (as it would not let me otherwise).
Now as a user I cannot start the interface no matter what I try. There is no ccp4.setup file ...
Jan
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Jan Dohnalek, Ph.D
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From: Jacob Keller
Hmm, works fine for me. Maybe disable user account control?
Jacob
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Jacob Pearson Keller
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From: Rajesh kumar
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From: Robert Oeffner
Hi,
I have encountered this problem with CCP4 6.2.0 as well as for the past few years. Whenever I run the CCP4 installer "for all users" on my Windows Vista PC as administrator it only creates desktop icons and startup menu item for the administrator account, not for other users.
It appears that the CCP4 desktop icon shortcut is put in C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop and the start menu CCP4 folder is put in C:\Users\Administrator\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\CCP4-Packages-6.2.0. Both of these paths are incorrect as they are invisible when logging in as another user.
I'm not sure where the CCP4 desktop icon shortcut should go but placing the startup folder in C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs makes it accessible to other users.
On a separate note, it also appears that there is a bug in the ActiveTCL installer which is recommended to be installed on Vista platforms. It only makes file associations with tcl files for the user who installed this program. Consequently when double clicking the CCP4 icon as a different user than administrator windows prompts the user asking what program the file should be opened with. Again this can be overcome by making the wish.exe program from the ActiveTcl folder the default program to use.
Regards,
Robert Oeffner, Ph.D.
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From: Marcin Wojdyr
Hi,
Thanks for listing all the problems.
We are testing a new installer for Windows now. It's written from scratch (we switched from InstallShield to WiX) and if we don't find any issues with it we'll put it on ftp tomorrow.
ActiveTcl should not be necessary with this and future versions. In September we updated our build of Tcl and friends and it seems to work well with ccp4i and imosflm. We'll remove the recommendation of ActiveTcl from the website soon.
Cheers
Marcin
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From: Marcin Wojdyr
I've uploaded a new installer here:
ftp://ftp.ccp4.ac.uk/mww/CCP4-6.2.1.msi
The content is the same, the version was changed only for technical reason, there is no point in upgrading if someone has version 6.2.0 already
installed.
When upgrading from older version, please uninstall old version first and if there are any CCP4 environmental variables left, please delete them manually.
The next release will handle upgrades automatically, but we need to do more tests.
Marcin
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From: Marcin Wojdyr
Two weeks ago we announced new experimental windows installer (only the installer itself was new, but the content -- files that are installed -- has not changes). The next revision of this installer fixes a few problems with environmental variables and includes updates that are available from our ftp site.
There is no real reason to download it if you have ver. 6.2.0 already installed, but for new installations it may work better.
You are welcome to try it.
ftp://ftp.ccp4.ac.uk/mww/CCP4-6.2.2.msi
Marcin
Date: 3 November 2011 12:54
does not seem to create anything "runnable" - please any experience here?
I downloaded the latest Windows package "all users" - type. Installed under admin (as it would not let me otherwise).
Now as a user I cannot start the interface no matter what I try. There is no ccp4.setup file ...
Jan
--
Jan Dohnalek, Ph.D
----------
From: Jacob Keller
Hmm, works fine for me. Maybe disable user account control?
Jacob
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*******************************************
Jacob Pearson Keller
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From: Rajesh kumar
I have slightly different problem. I have windows 7 Enterprise. I don't get any shortcuts on my desktop after installation.
I work with admin account. If I try to execute /ccp4-6.2.0/ccp4i/bin/ccp4i.tcl I get the following error. please see attachment.
I installed " ActiveTcl8.4.19.5.294332-win32-ix86-threaded" which was available on CCP4 website. Still it didnt help
I would greatly appreciate if you could me help me in solving this problem.
Thanks
Raj
From: Robert Oeffner
Hi,
I have encountered this problem with CCP4 6.2.0 as well as for the past few years. Whenever I run the CCP4 installer "for all users" on my Windows Vista PC as administrator it only creates desktop icons and startup menu item for the administrator account, not for other users.
It appears that the CCP4 desktop icon shortcut is put in C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop and the start menu CCP4 folder is put in C:\Users\Administrator\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\CCP4-Packages-6.2.0. Both of these paths are incorrect as they are invisible when logging in as another user.
I'm not sure where the CCP4 desktop icon shortcut should go but placing the startup folder in C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs makes it accessible to other users.
On a separate note, it also appears that there is a bug in the ActiveTCL installer which is recommended to be installed on Vista platforms. It only makes file associations with tcl files for the user who installed this program. Consequently when double clicking the CCP4 icon as a different user than administrator windows prompts the user asking what program the file should be opened with. Again this can be overcome by making the wish.exe program from the ActiveTcl folder the default program to use.
Regards,
Robert Oeffner, Ph.D.
----------
From: Marcin Wojdyr
Hi,
Thanks for listing all the problems.
We are testing a new installer for Windows now. It's written from scratch (we switched from InstallShield to WiX) and if we don't find any issues with it we'll put it on ftp tomorrow.
ActiveTcl should not be necessary with this and future versions. In September we updated our build of Tcl and friends and it seems to work well with ccp4i and imosflm. We'll remove the recommendation of ActiveTcl from the website soon.
Cheers
Marcin
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From: Marcin Wojdyr
I've uploaded a new installer here:
ftp://ftp.ccp4.ac.uk/mww/CCP4-6.2.1.msi
The content is the same, the version was changed only for technical reason, there is no point in upgrading if someone has version 6.2.0 already
installed.
When upgrading from older version, please uninstall old version first and if there are any CCP4 environmental variables left, please delete them manually.
The next release will handle upgrades automatically, but we need to do more tests.
Marcin
----------
From: Marcin Wojdyr
Two weeks ago we announced new experimental windows installer (only the installer itself was new, but the content -- files that are installed -- has not changes). The next revision of this installer fixes a few problems with environmental variables and includes updates that are available from our ftp site.
There is no real reason to download it if you have ver. 6.2.0 already installed, but for new installations it may work better.
You are welcome to try it.
ftp://ftp.ccp4.ac.uk/mww/CCP4-6.2.2.msi
Marcin
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